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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/02/2006 09:34:03
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An article in eWeek seems to indicate that some sanity has returned to the marketplace when it comes to certifications. A couple of years ago there were employers who would not interview you unless you had some sort of certification.
Have you gotten any certifications? Do you think it has helped you in your career? Have you seen any changes regarding the attitude towards the certifications?
Just curious.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/02/2006 10:13:59
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tfecw
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I have been thinking about walking the Java cert path. I started studying up on it just to get a better understanding of the language, but haven't really focused on passing the test.
I think I got pretty lucky with my job doing j2ee, no certifications were required. All they asked was if i knew j2ee, and i didn't know what they were talking about so i told them that i knew java. But everything seemed to have worked out okay, so far.
As for certifications...I am CCNA certified (it may have expired by now, not sure) My last year of school i decided i wanted to go the networking path. I didn't even get an interview because of the certification. I applied to a few places but never heard anything back from them. I was preparing for the BCSI and the other half of the CCNP as well as the CIISP when i landed my current job and now i can't imagine not writing code for a living. Which is interesting because i started down the network path because i couldn't imagine writing code for a living.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/04/2006 09:42:18
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mrider
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I currently have no certifications at all. Back in the day when they were hard to get, I was an MCSE. When I took the tests there were very few study guides and no "here're the answers to any of the questions anyone is likely to see" web sites. It was HARD, and I had to learn the O.S. well. I answered the questions and passed the tests because I had done the work.
Then one day I started noticing all the paper certifications around me. I had one person that was an MCSE, MCT, as well as a few other non M.S. certifications. I handed this person a laptop with NT 4, a local administrator's account only, and turned him loose. He couldn't even create a local user account.
That's when I got serious about looking around at certs trying to see whether they actually meant anything. I was just so disgusted. At that time (around the time the dot bomb was falling), I realized that pretty much every cert was worthless. I haven't really tried to get certified in anything since. I guess if the student looks at the course-work as an excuse to delve into the deep, dark corners of the subject, and only gets certified after having learned the material - then well and fine.
So perhaps the fact that some sanity has returned is a good thing. It seems to me that the quality of a certification is inversely proportional to its popularity/desirability.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/04/2006 09:57:43
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This is similar to my experience. I have no certifications at all. I've been doing this type of work for a while though. As you indicated during the downside of the boom that is when job postings would say that only certified engineers need apply.
And I've had the same type of experience as you - somebody has all of these certs and they are clueless. It reminds me of a guy I knew in college. Straight A's in mechanical engineering from the University of Illinois (big engineering school for those who don't know) but couldn't change the tire on his car!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 04/15/2008 06:30:58
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gattytto
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Hi! I'm new to this forum and i find it quite interesting so far =). So hi all!
i'm 20 y.o. and so far i've worked in several areas of computing without more certification than my college one .
(yeah sorry 'bout the bad english, i speak spanish!)
Some days ago I started working on Java-based Web applications developing for a medium-sized enterprise. They agreed to teach me while they pay me a minimum money 'til I get to know enough.
Here in my country (Argentina) most of the times there's no need of a certification to get the job, but the salary will vary according to them. Also, some times there'll be chances of not getting the job for having too many certifications =).
I see certifications more as a personal goal than as a literal oportunity for a job. And i'm heading to get a Java one now that I started with this, as soon as i get the money (and the brain) for it.
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nanai
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hi friends.
I think I got pretty lucky with my job doing j2ee, no certifications were required. All they asked was if i knew j2ee, and i didn't know what they were talking about so i told them that i knew java. But everything seemed to have worked out okay, so far.
regards,
phe9oxis,
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samcrime786
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